That's exactly what we've been saying.  Really every other point here is moot, we can go around and around in circles about when priests can help, and no reasonable person is going to say that priests are an auto-loss 100% of the time or that they never serve any purpose.  

If priests gave 40 instead of 50 xp and 15 instead of 33 gold would anyone be posting here asking for their value to be raised?

For comparison let's get this in here too:

 

Unit	Exp. value	Bounty value
Soldier	33	4
Archer	33	8
Priest	50	33
Angel	50	66
Catapultasaurus	30	66
Giant	50	100
Tower	0	300
Fortress	0	300

 

I never get Priests early game personally because I don't think it's worth the gold but when people on my team do it's hardly a bad thing.  I often get healed by the Priests to keep me in the lane longer and in some cases help me in a fight.

Plus my sides minions then always win and start chipping away at the towers giving me an opportunity to take them out quicker, denying them teleport locations.

Unfortunately, there are some people here claiming exactly that.  (Nah, not in this thread Obscenitor, this one is actually constructive, it's nice)

Suggesting the drop to say 40xp sounds pretty reasonable, and gold to 15-20 sounds pretty reasonable too, would this make things so earth-movingly better though?

A couple things:

You acknowledge that priests give more gold/exp to the other team but you say it has pros as well, without ever really saying whether you think that the gold/exp they give is appropriate.  I don't really think we're talking about quite the same thing because of it.  You're defending the unit as a whole without giving your own quantification of its worth or supporting/disputing the current quantification of that value, which is 50 exp/33 gold a piece.

Again I don't feel that people in this particular thread are coming from the perspective that priests are worthless, just that being worth quadruple the bounty of archers and 8x the bounty of soldiers seems out of whack.

It just really seems to me like the developers didn't anticipate people skipping the upgrade completely.  Honestly if both sides would get priests when they become available I think the game would be much more fun, there's just no way to guarantee the opposing side will follow suit.

Thats why I was suggesting having them linked to the war rank. Both teams would end up getting the priest at relativity the same time.

If by here you mean the boards, then yes, but in this thread I haven't seen it so far (maybe I glossed over it though).  We can agree that anyone who says that is being unreasonable or hyperbolic.

Well relative to the effort involved I think it would be one of the best changes possible.  Most other player complaints are about bugs and lack of heroes which take an immense amount of effort or DG balance (though honestly complaints about specific abilities are extremely low key here relative to other forums) and rebalancing DGs seems like it would take way more research and risks disenfranchising people fond of those DGs.

On the other hand changing priest bounties seems incredibly simple and very few people would be upset by it, so when it comes to risk vs. reward or effort vs. reward I think it's one of the best changes that could be made, and while it's not earth moving on its own, you can't build a giant bone temple all at once, you have to build it one skull at a time.

Well, I got the impression, that everyone thinks that the Priests only purpose in early game is to feed the enemy, regardless of how much xp and gold they give.

If you couldn't tell from my post, I didn't mention the xp/gold "issue" because I don't see a huge "issue" with it.  It's never been a game-changer for me (negatively).  If you get priests, I encourage players to do something with them, not just upgrade them and hope for the best.  Again, gotta have the cons with the pros of anything.  The cons are obvious and overstated.  The pros, not so much.  I don't have any complaint regarding the xp/gold associated with the priests. 

 

Honestly, it surprises me that so many people are complaining about this.  There are way, WAY more important things to fix in the game.  But that's an alternative topic.

How true.

It's not actually many, it's a few people who have claimed to not get Priests as a strategy and then a few people who think they know that you shouldn't get Priests who can't see the benefit of them.

 

i disagree here. priests will help your minions push through the enemy waves to towers, but at towers, they one shot pretty much everything, so it rerally doesn't help, especially if they have the first tower upgrade

But having the Priests there gives me a few more moments to get some hits in without taking damage back.

Of course it helps. Creeps without priests do not help against toweres with the first health upgrade, but creeps with priests do. And you are there too.

so you have to baby sit each wave, and i understand that can help take down towers, but ultimately, an upgrade should be good for the team or not good for the team, it should not benefit the other team and tha's what priests do. they feed gold when you don't sit with them

so you have to baby sit each wave, and i understand that can help take down towers, but ultimately, an upgrade should be good for the team or not good for the team, it should not benefit the other team and tha's what priests do. they feed gold when you don't sit with them. even them pushing hurts, because if you are not there the fights get closer and closer to the enemys turf, and it's esay for that demigod to take out your waves, then if you come, run and quickly be back at his own health crystal

 

 

i'm not sure how this became a double post